After Lauer relayed a point Stewart made during his interview with the President, that voters were disappointed by Obama's "timidity", Heilemann agreed as he explained: "I think there's also kind of a fundamental confusion about who the President is. A lot of young voters...thought that he was a progressive champion and they've seen him govern in a more pragmatic, centrist way."
The following exchange was aired on the October 28 Today show:
MATT LAUER: When you see the President on The Daily Show, obviously courting young voters, if that group was, for lack of a better expression, fired up and ready to go two years ago for Democratic candidates and this president, how would you guys describe their level of enthusiasm and involvement, right now?The following is a transcript of the complete Today show segment on which Heilemann appeared with his Game Change co-author Mark Halperin:
MARK HALPERIN, TIME: A lot less than two years ago.
HALPERIN: Well it's not a presidential race. You don't have the same dynamics in, in an off-year. And also the President was a great brand in 2008. People were fired up and ready to go about him and what he represents.
LAUER: And has Jon put his finger on it, I mean not this John, Jon Stewart, put his finger on something with this timidity that, that some young voters have witnessed?
JOHN HEILEMANN, NEW YORK MAGAZINE: I think that's partly true and I think there's also kind of a fundamental confusion about who the President is. A lot of young voters and African-American voters, Hispanic voters thought that he was a progressive champion and they've seen him govern in a more pragmatic, centrist way.