Piers Morgan Slams 'Dangerous' Pro-Second Amendment Activist as 'Unbelievably Stupid'
Outspoken gun control supporter Piers Morgan unleashed on Larry Pratt of the Gun Owners of America on the Tuesday edition of his CNN program. Morgan repeatedly interrupted Pratt as he tried to defend the right to self defense and the Second Amendment, and resorted to personal insults of his guest: "You're an unbelievably stupid man, aren't you?...I know why sales of these weapons have been soaring in the last few days. It's down to idiots like you."
The native of the United Kingdom later blasted the gun rights supporter as a "a dangerous man espousing dangerous nonsense, and you shame your country."
Morgan hasn't been alone in launching pro-gun control tirades on CNN since the Friday massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. On Monday, Starting Point host Soledad O'Brien took a similar tact with author John Lott. Later that day, Don Lemon lobbied for a renewal of the Clinton-era assault weapons ban: "We need to get guns and bullets and automatic weapons off the streets. They should only be available to police officers and to hunt al-Qaeda and the Taliban and not hunt elementary school children."
Back in August 2012, the former America's Got Talent host even used the shooting of a security guard at the conservative Family Research Council to push for more gun control and to express his disappointment in President Obama for not doing enough with this issue. Morgan asked Newark, New Jersey Mayor Corey Booker, "You must be disappointed that the President isn't ordering some new form of gun control, aren't you?"
The transcript of the relevant portions of the Larry Pratt segment on Tuesday's Piers Morgan Tonight on CNN (h/t: NewsBusters's Noel Sheppard, who posted an item on the interview on Wednesday morning; Sheppard also provided the video above):
PIERS MORGAN, HOST: The AR-15, as we've now seen from the last three mass shootings in America, Aurora, the shopping mall in Oregon, and now at Sandy Hook school, is the preferred choice of weapon for disturbed young men who want to commit mass atrocity, can fire hundreds of bullets at rapid speed, if you have the right magazines.
The president of the United States has indicated he wants to ban assault weapons like this. What is your view?
LARRY PRATT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA: I think we need to ban gun control laws that keep people from being able to protect themselves. The problem is not going to go away if we ban this or that gun. We've tried that. That doesn't work. Doesn't even work in England. You have mass murders there all over Europe. There have been mass murderers.
MORGAN: You're talking complete and utter -- you are talking complete and utter nonsense.
PRATT: The solution is for people to be able to defend themselves at the point of the crime and not wait for 20 minutes for the police to come after everybody is dead.
MORGAN: What you've just said, Mr. Pratt, was an absolute lie. The gun murder rate in countries like Britain or Germany or Australia, who've all suffered massacres many years ago, similar nature, have -- there are 35 people killed a year. Your country has 12,000.
PRATT: Your murder rate has -- your murder rate is lower than ours, that is true. Your violent --
MORGAN: Lower? It's 75 against 12,000 in Australia.
PRATT: Your violent crime rate --
MORGAN: They had a massacre. And they got rid of these assault weapons.
PRATT: Your violent crime rate is higher than ours as is the violent crime rate in Australia. America is not the Wild West that you are depicting. We only have the problem in our cities, and unhappily, in our schools where people like you have been able to get laws put on the books that keep people from being able to defend themselves.
I honestly don't understand why you would rather have people be victims of a crime than be able to defend themselves. It's incomprehensible.
MORGAN: You're an unbelievably stupid man, aren't you?
PRATT: It seems to me that you're morally obtuse. You seem to prefer being a victim to being able to prevail over the criminal element. And I don't know why you want to be the criminal's friend.
MORGAN: What a ridiculous argument. You have absolutely no coherent argument whatsoever. You don't -- you don't actually give --
PRATT: You have no --
MORGAN: You don't give a damn, do you, about the gun murder rate in America? You don't actually care. All you care about --
PRATT: It seems to me that facts don't bother you, do they, Mr. Morgan?
MORGAN: -- is the right for any -- Americans -- you would like to see --
PRATT: Facts seem to -- they bounce right off of your head.
MORGAN: No, no, let's deal with some facts....
PRATT: ...I wish you could understand it. Because you're talking against self-defense.
MORGAN: Would you like to see -- would you like to see -- would you like to see --
PRATT: You're talking against people being able to protect themselves.
MORGAN: Would you like to see teachers armed --
PRATT: And you don't want to hear it, that's why you keep interrupting me.
MORGAN: No, no, I don't mind hearing it. I think it's complete nonsense. But I mind hearing it. You would like to see --
PRATT: Well, Brits tend to do that, don't they?
MORGAN: Stop being so facetious. I just want you to answer this one question. Post what happened at Sandy Hook, your answer to this problem of repeated use of this weapon with these high-capacity magazines is to continue letting Americans buy them with impunity, and to not concern yourself with these mass shootings. Is that right?
PRATT: The Second Amendment means what it says, and meanwhile, you want to continue laws against self-defense. Laws that prohibit self-defense. Laws that prohibit teachers and other faculty, other members of the administration in schools from being able to defend themselves if they have a concealed carry permit. The laws prohibit them right now. We have been lobbying against those laws since they were put on. We will continue to do so, pointing out that that is where the problem is. And for you to support them means that you're really blind to the role that that plays in enabling murderers to operate within impunity.
MORGAN: Yes, I know -- I know why sales of these weapons have been soaring in the last few days. It's down to idiots like you. Mr. Pratt, thank you for joining me. When we come back --
PRATT: Thank you for your high-level argument, Mr. Morgan. It's really very good.
MORGAN: You know what, you wouldn't understand the meaning of the phrase high-level argument. You are a dangerous man espousing dangerous nonsense. And you shame your country.
PRATT: Disarmament is dangerous. Ask Neville Chamberlain, your role model.
MORGAN: Yes. Sure. I know all about role models and you're not one of them.