MSNBC's David Shuster and liberal Professor Michael Eric Dyson on Monday took
turns smearing Rush Limbaugh. Discussing conservative reaction to the passage of
the health care bill, Shuster berated, "
But, nobody on the right produced as
much controversial venom this afternoon as Rush Limbaugh."
Shuster also linked the radio host to isolated outbursts over the weekend
during protests in Washington. Talking to guest Michelle Bernard, he connected,
"
Is it possible, Michelle, to draw a link between Rush Limbaugh and when he
talks, in a clip we didn't play, but how supporters should be wiped out?" He
asserted, "That sort of venomous language and you create this picture- Rush
Limbaugh creates this picture of fascism and Nazism on the march."
While Shuster added that the host's comments led to people "acting crazily"
during protests, he didn't explain the context of Limbaugh's
quote. On Monday's
show, the host spoke in political terms: "We need to defeat these bastards. We
need to wipe them out. We need to chase them out of town."
Liberal Georgetown Professor Michael Eric Dyson slammed Limbaugh as a bigot:
"What's not perplexing is his bigotry...This is a bigotaucracy [sic]. I think
Rush Limbaugh is trying to foment a universe of bigotaucracy."
He asserted that the radio star's comments could lead to a culture of
violence: "But, that kind of stuff has no place in American civil discourse. And
that only foments the kind of dissent that leads to the most attacks on Mr.
Obama, the most threats against him as any President." Shuster only added, "I
agree."
Linking conservatives to the Confederacy, Dyson charged, "Many conservatives,
acid, arch-right conservatives and Republicans, embrace a flag that is not
America ultimately."
Have Shuster and Dyson not watched Keith Olbermann, MSNBC host? The vitriolic
cable anchor has made all sorts of horrible claims about conservatives.
In January, he trashed Massachusetts Republican
Scott Brown: "In Scott Brown
we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model,
teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom
he disagrees."
A partial transcript of the March 22 News Live segment, which aired at 3:10pm
EDT, follows:
DAVID SHUSTER: We've been talking a lot today about the reaction to what
happened last night. And many conservatives today reacted harshly to the action
in Congress. But, nobody on the right produced as much controversial venom
this afternoon as Rush Limbaugh.
RUSH LIMBAUGH: Every single Democrat who voted for this needs to know, safe
district or not, they are going to be exposed and hassled and chased from
office.
SHUSTER: Limbaugh then turned to the politics of race.
LIMBAUGH: Here's what he's going to say: "There are some people who don't
like your skin color. Who don't think you should be American." He has come to
divide. He has come to conquer. Is there anybody who now doubts what I meant
when I said I hope he fails?
SHUSTER: We're joined by Georgetown University professor Michael Eric Dyson.
And also with us MSNBC political analyst Michelle Bernard, who is President and
CEO of the Independent Women's Forum. Professor Dyson, what goes through your
mind when you hear that stuff?
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: I mean, if anybody is fomenting dissent, it is Rush
Limbaugh, the politics of division, the cruel denial of the utter humanity of
Mr. Obama. Those who disagree with him have the right to do so but to
disparage his character and to assert these unfounded ideas and propositions
about Mr. Obama is just dumbfounding to me. And I think beyond that it, doesn't
do any good to help the conversation in this country between conservatives and
liberals and progressives by people trying to make out of whole cloth assertions
that cannot be empirically verified. There's nothing in Mr. Obama's language,
demeanor or reaching out to the right to suggest he is in any way inclined to
make this an empire of color or trying to derail what he sees as the benefit for
all Americans of social policies that he puts into legislation.
SHUSTER: Is it possible, Michelle, to draw a link between Rush Limbaugh
and when he talks in a clip we didn't play but how supporters should be wiped
out? That sort of venomous language and you create this picture, Rush Limbaugh
creates this picture of fascism and Nazism on the march. And you then start to
have people going out of control acting crazily on Capitol Hill, yelling all
kinds of racist things at members of the Congressional Black Caucus, yelling
hateful things at Barney Frank, spitting on one member of Congress, can you draw
that link?
MICHELLE BERNARD (MSNBC political analyst): There are people that will draw
that link but I would, you know, venture to guess that Rush Limbaugh, the
amount- the number of people that listen to Rush Limbaugh every day- not all of
them are members of the groups that did the horrible things we saw happen over
the weekend. I think that what he is saying, unfortunately, is what he is
hearing from his listeners and there are people who believe that Barack Obama is
here to divide and conquer, at least on racial terms. I don't believe that. Even
you said this morning, earlier, when we were here, Barack Obama, when it comes
to race is almost allergic to talking about it. We've seen him do that once or
twice during his presidency. Several times during the campaign. But, I think I
have to disagree with Rush Limbaugh when he says he is here to divide and
conquer. The country is very much divided right now on political terms. The
Republican Party is divided. The Democratic Party is divided. At one point in
time I remember then-Senator Obama saying we are not a nation of red states and
blue states. We are a nation of purple states. Well, for better or for worse,
since his election we have definitely become a nation of red states and blue
states. And we're going to see it in November. I believe that there are a lot of
people, Democrats who are going to lose their seats in November. It doesn't have
anything to do with race. It has a lot to do with the fact that this Congress
has done nothing until health care yesterday, since 2008.
SHUSTER: But, I also have to wonder if it has to do with people being whipped
up into such a frenzy and it's one thing to say divide and conquer and maybe
that's, you know, okay. Maybe that's fine. But here's what else Rush Limbaugh
said today in terms of describing the Obama crowd. Watch.
LIMBAUGH: They look at this country as one big criminal act. One big civil
rights, human rights violation. Don't doubt me. That is how Obama has been
raised to look at this country and he believes it.
SHUSTER: That's about as loaded-
DYSON: That's ignorant beyond belief. First of all you, can't even read his
books to draw that kind of conclusion. He says in his books about the wide
consideration for American values that was deeply implanted in him by his
mother, by his grandparents. He was not raised in any traditional sense to have
any kind of aspersions against white Americans, being half white himself. And
beyond that, Rush Limbaugh speaking about this is one- Americans thinking this
is one criminal act, especially African-Americans, black people have been the
most patriotic americans in this nation. Going off to war to defend rights that
they could not enjoy back home. The confederates of this country tried to secede
from the nation. Many conservatives, acid, arch-right conservatives and
Republicans, embrace a flag that is not America ultimately. We have died for
this flag. We've raised it high. We have touted the virtues of America. James
Baldwin, the author, said this: "I love America more than any nation on this
earth. That's why I reserve the right to criticize her perpetually." We believe
that love is investment in the critical opposition to platforms and parties and
principles that we think are destructive. But we don't have to demonize each
other. Michelle Bernard is obviously a brilliant woman. She has a position. I
have a position. We don't have to demonize each other to disagree. And I think
Mr. Limbaugh, again, is fomenting these things and I think the conservatives of
good conscience should speak out against him to say that he doesn't represent
America at its best.
...
DYSON: All Americans understand that we have an investment in this country
and our investment must be protected. It doesn't mean we don't disagree, that we
don't have dissent, that we don't express that articulately. But to resort to
this kind of shenanigans, where Mr. Limbaugh is trying to foment racist- quite
frankly- animus against Mr. Obama by unfounded opposition to him is just
remarkable.
...
DYSON: What's not perplexing is his bigotry. And we have to- This is a
bigotaucracy [sic]. I think Rush Limbaugh is trying to foment a universe of
bigotaucracy. And I think we have to speak out on left and right to say,
look, "We can disagree with each other. But that kind of stuff has no place in
American civil discourse. And that only foments the kind of dissent that leads
to the most attacks on Mr. Obama, the most threats against him as any
president.
SHUSTER: I agree.
DYSON: And I think we need to be afraid for the future of our nation, not
simply the health of Mr. Obama or health care.
-Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on
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