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Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday devoted almost an
entire interview with Republican Darrell Issa to attacking a criticism
the Congressman made of Barack Obama as "corrupt." Stephanopoulos
attempted four times to get Issa to recant his accusation.
The GMA host demanded of Issa, who next year will chair the powerful
House Oversight committee, "And just before the election, you made a
pretty serious charge on Rush Limbaugh's radio show, saying that
President Obama has been, quote, 'one of the most corrupt presidents of
modern times.' What did you base that on? And how will you follow up on
that now that you have the power to investigate?"
Stephanopoulos returned to the question over and over, excluding other topics: "
So,
let me just press that. You no longer stand by the statement that the
President is one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times?"
After Issa brought up misuse of stimulus money and other issues, the
annoyed host demanded, "Do you stand by the statement or not?
Perhaps
previewing the combative, skeptical tone that the new Republican
majority would be subject to, Stephanopoulos defended the President
against accusations that some stimulus money was used for political
payback: "But, you have no evidence that that $700 billion was dealt
with illegally in any manner, correct?"
At the close of the segment, Stephanopoulos still couldn't let Issa's
description go: "We are out of time. You are no longer saying President
Obama's been one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times,
correct?"
A transcript of the November 8 segment, which aired at 7:06am EST, follows:
GEORGE
STEPHANOPOULOS: One of the most powerful members of the new Republican
House, Congressman Darrell Issa will chair the House Oversight and
Government Reform committee. It's his job now to investigate how
the federal government is using your tax dollars and any possible
wrongdoing in the Obama administration. Good morning, Congressman. How
are you today?
DARRELL ISSA: George, I'm doing fine. It's a little daunting to have
someone say one of the most powerful. But, thank you for mentioning the
investigations and the need to have accountability.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, you got to own it now, Congressman. Let's
bring now with what Jon Karl was saying about House Republicans maybe
resisting this potential compromise on tax cuts. As you know, if no
compromise is reached, everyone's taxes will go up on January 1st. Can
you accept this compromise that is now being floated about a two year
extension for the tax cuts for the wealthy, permanently for everyone
else?
ISSA: No, I can't. Tax certainty is important. And it's important for
the investing class, probably more than anybody else. And so when you
look at small businesses and their need to make decisions about
investment, you're looking at people who you want to probably invest
today but four the next two years and maybe not make so much back, but
eventually make more money. So, if anything, this is wrong-minded. In
some ways, you should say, look, if you invest today, we'll let you get a
better deal three, four, five years from now because that's how you
create jobs. Hopefully, we'll come to a compromise that does allow
people make decisions beyond just this tax year.
STEPHANOPOULOS:
Okay, let's move on to your responsibilities as chairman of the
oversight committee. You're going to have more investigative powers than
just about anyone on Capitol Hill. Like a prosecutor, you can issue
subpoenas for information, compel witnesses to appear. And just
before the election, you made a pretty serious charge on Rush Limbaugh's
radio show, saying that President Obama has been, quote, "one of the
most corrupt presidents of modern times." What did you base that on? And
how will you follow up on that now that you have the power to
investigate?
ISSA: George, I want to you understand. One, it was the heat of the
campaign. Two, this is not intended to be that the President personally
is corrupt. But his administration received $700 billion with the
walking around money and the stimulus and used it just that way. A great
deal was used for political payback. This has been a very loose
administration, one in which, although some people have worked hard to
account for where the money went, pretty much the money, money, sorry
about that [sic], went just about where the President wanted it to. And
that's got to change. Presidential earmarks are just as important to end
as congressional earmarks which now have ended. I mean, there's no
question that Republicans taking over the House, there will not be
earmarks. That era is behind us.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So,
let me just press that. You no longer stand by the statement that the
President is one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times?
ISSA: I think his administration has a lot of explaining where the $700
billion went, where investigations that should have gone on,
particularly into ACORN, an organization that he had past influence
with, and should be willing to do a lot to end, I think those have to be
dealt with. But, quite frankly, this was a statement made rightfully so
about the corruptness in Washington under his administration, not him
personally.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, wait. No. But, you just said rightfully so. Do you stand by the statement or not?
ISSA: I stand by the statement that this administration has failed to
be accountable, failed to be transparent. Failed to do what they said
they were going to do that. But, most importantly, you can't have money
being spent for political purposes, rewarding the unions and the public
employees on the taxpayer's back. Understand, the problem we have in
Washington today is people think a job in the government is somehow
saving a job. It's not saving a job. It's saving government. It's not
creating one real job in the private sector. That $700 billion is gone,
we have to figure out, one where it went and two, how to keep it from
going away that way again. The American people cannot afford that.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I understand that. But, you have no evidence that that $700 billion was dealt with illegally in any manner, correct?
ISSA: Corruption and illegality are very different. The Joe Sestak
situation is certainly a matter of corruption. Whether it's illegal or
not you, whether other administrations done it before isn't the
question. The American people don't think that government jobs and
government positions should be used for political purpose. So, it's
certainly an example where, I'm not going to worry about whether or not
it was a crime, I'm going to worry about whether or not it can continue.
The second half of the name is reform. Not just oversight. Not just
investigation. We're about accountability and efficiency, as much as we
are about investigations.
STEPHANOPOULOS: We are out of time. You are no longer saying President Obama's been one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times, correct?
ISSA: I'm certainly saying this administration is going to have to
straighten up and fly right. It will be our job to make sure the
government money isn't wasted. I've never made that a personal
statement, tried never to make that a personal statement about the
President. So, if that's backing up from it, I'm not saying the
President is personally corrupt, but his administration has to change
direction, particularly at the taxpayer's money.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Got it. Thank you, Congressman.
- Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on Twitter.