On the December 2 "Morning Joe," "60 Minutes" correspondent Lesley Stahl
deplored the GOP stiff-arm to Democratic lame-duck legislation,
complaining that it wiped out the conciliatory tone of the Republicans'
meeting with President Obama. She referred to the GOP strategy as "the
maneuvering that I think is such a turnoff."
"If you're up here after the White House meeting saying 'Yes, they can
be civil to each other,' and it's just a tone. We know it's a tone. And
then it's dashed," she mourned. "After the meeting with the President,
everybody - I think, I think - in the country said this is great, this
is what we want, we want that tone," she gushed of the GOP leadership's
meeting with Obama.
Stahl then lamented the GOP's ensuing opposition to Democratic
legislation until extending the Bush tax cuts is made a top priority.
"And
then Mitch McConnell comes out with his letter saying 'We're not going
to do anything. Anything.' I wonder how that plays, I wonder what he
thinks he's accomplishing when everybody is applauding just the tone of
the meeting with the President," she questioned.
Joe Scarborough meanwhile flashed a provocative headline for the camera
and warned that Republicans will face staunch criticism for refusing to
extend unemployment benefits in its stand-off. The co-host held
Thursday's copy of the New York Daily News, with a cover that read "GOP
to City Jobless: Drop Dead."
Rather than condemning the title as extreme, in the vein of his recent
pleading for calmer rhetoric throughout the nation under the slogan
"Keep Calm and Carry On," Scarborough said that such headlines will be
common now that Republicans will ascend to the House majority. "You
would not have seen this a month ago," he commented.
Time's Mark Halperin remarked that what Republicans are doing is
actually working. "All the things that worked for Republicans in the
election are still working now," he stated. "The country hasn't changed.
Saying 'we're against taxes,' saying the President's a liberal, saying
Democrats aren't focused on what the American people care about - all
those talking points continue to work, and Republicans aren't giving
them up"
A transcript of the segment, which aired on December 2 at 8:04 a.m. EDT, is as follows:
LESLEY STAHL, '60 Minutes' correspondent: I think what you were talking
about, with Coburn this morning, it was such a relief to hear him say
something nice about the President. And the whole table here said "Isn't
that wonderful." And after the meeting with the President, everybody - I
think, I think - in the country said this is great, this is what we
want, we want that tone.
That's all. And he comes in with this harsh letter saying basically
"Forget it. We're not going to do anything." What do you think the
public is feeling when they see that their mood of the day before is
completely crashed? You said it was a negotiation, but I'm asking about
the tone.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: I think it is. I think that in the end, the deal's
going to get done, because the President needs the tax cuts to help him
with independents, and Republicans don't need to cut off unemployment
benefits at Christmas because they don't want to see this headline in
their hometown newspaper -
(Camera Zooms to Headline)
HEADLINE, NY Daily News: "GOP to City Jobless: Drop Dead!"
STAHL: We have to see the sausage-making. I'm just talking about the maneuvering that I think is such a turnoff.
SCARBOROUGH: But see, I don't think Mitch McConnell is playing to
middle America. Mitch McConnell has his own problems, and that's inside
his own caucus. He's far more moderate on spending than all of the Tea
Party people that came to Washington, DC, and he's already given in on
the earmark ban. I think he's trying to show his troops "Hey, I can be
tough." But he's in the minority.
STAHL: But how does it play out there? What is the public - you know, I
just look at that, and if you're up here after the White House meeting
saying "Yes, they can be civil to each other," and it's just a tone. We
know it's a tone. And then it's dashed.
SCARBOROUGH: You know I always found, that as far as middle America
goes, for the most part, you've got the President, and then you've got
everybody else. And as long as the President's talking this way, I think
he's helping himself with independent voters, and if Republicans don't
strike a deal that helps both sides, then the President can leverage
that against them and - that was always my take with Bill Clinton, that
it was always about Bill Clinton. Or it was always about Ronald Reagan,
and how people responded to them.
STAHL: Yeah, but they're larger-than-life. Obama, I'm not sure has that same sway and influence over the -
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, things have changed!
STAHL: Do you think he does? Do you think that he captures the public's
attention to the same degree that Clinton and Reagan did?
SCARBOROUGH: I think he's where Bill Clinton was in '94. I mean the big key is where we go two years from now.
(...)
MARK HALPERIN, Time magazine senior political analyst: It's a very
complicated time that requires the President to be bigger-than-life -
and it's just not the way his relationship with the American people
exists right now. I think that the moment we're in right now is
extraordinarily important, and the White House is acting like they can
be patient rather than seize the initiative. It's extraordinarily
important that the economy be strong as it finishes the year and goes
into next year where people have confidence that things can get done.
The danger - the liability that I think the Democrats have now and the
President has now is the election was a month ago - all the things that
worked for Republicans in the election are still working now. The
country hasn't changed. Saying "we're against taxes," saying the
President's a liberal, saying Democrats aren't focused on what the
American people care about - all those talking points continue to work,
and Republicans aren't giving them up.
STAHL: I don't agree with you.
SCARBOROUGH: I'll show this again, though. I'm sorry. You would not
have seen this - and it's not just about this issue. You would not have
seen this a month ago. (Shows the NY Daily News Headline: "GOP to City
Jobless: Drop Dead!") Now that Republicans are in power in the House of
Representatives, you're going to be seeing more things like that-
HALPERIN: But they're not yet -
SCARBOROUGH: Most of America thinks they are. I'm telling you - the big
headline this week politically is the fact that Barack Obama and Robert
Gibbs started sounding like the Barack Obama and Robert Gibbs that
America met in Iowa in 2008.
(...)
SCARBOROUGH: The Republicans can't get the tax cuts they want without
the President, and the President can't get the unemployment benefits
that he wants without Republicans. That's how Washington works.
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